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NylonMichelle
03-18-2008, 08:33 PM
Hey Mr. Webmasters,

I need your experts opinion and advice...
somehow I got stuck with sales and traffic and despite more sites I cant go up...

In now run this sites

http://http://top-pantyhose.com

http://fetishmother.com

http://nylonmichelle.blogspot.com

http://pantyhose-24.com

and http://nylonmichelle.com

but sales are not rising... any idea what I do wrong?

I can believe that it is saturated. ..

Please let me know what you think.. any advice welcome...

Thanks & kisses,

Michelle

Toby
03-18-2008, 09:56 PM
Pretty tough to evaluate traffic across multiple domains without seeing detailed stats. My first question is how diverse is your traffic on different sites, are you getting different surfers on each site, or are you mostly sharing the same main group of surfers across all the sites.

I try to do both, send surfers from one site to another within my own network, but also bring in new unique surfers to each site.

Each of my sites is a little different niche, with some overlap, so it's a bit easier to diversify the traffic.

jscott
03-18-2008, 10:14 PM
Good point Toby, I agreee about diversifying the traffic to help expand your traffic numbers, especially to other niches aswell, it's amazing also how $10 (domain price) and your imagination can lead you to

Also I've learned it's best to obviously NOT sit on domains without using them, putting them to work for you in some way or another, a lot of us buy domains with these great ideas to do this, or that with them, but push them aside and tag them as "I'll deal with them later" and years later they are still sitting there collecting dust

Just a couple, of many ways, good luck Michelle, and I hope you will add traffic, sales onto your network soon :)

Suckerpunch
03-19-2008, 01:38 AM
Here's some thoughts;

>> You seem to be using all of your sites as feeder traffic to nylonmichelle.com which is fine but if you've hit a wall member wise, you might want to try promoting some other affiliate programs to diversify your income.

>> Scour your search reports and find out what people are typing in to arrive. Look for related search terms using the google keyword tool and try to pull in those people to your sites as well.

>> Open up an affiliate program for your paysite. Get others promoting for you as well. By doing so, you're going to increase your "sales force" and help with your search engine placement to boot.

Hope this helps...

jscott
03-20-2008, 08:50 AM
Suckerpunch, great advice, that WILL help her

NylonMichelle
03-20-2008, 03:12 PM
Thanks for that many good ideas. In average I get like 800 uniques for nylonm., 1000 uniques for pantyhose-24 and 300 to the toplist and fetishm. the blog gets around 200. I can not really tell how many real uniques that is, meaning double count on different pages. nylonm. gets around 120 hits from google per day and I used the google keyword tool for encasement and suggestion was NylonMichelle :-) Anyhow, it showed also some other intersting keywords that I will use in my blog and other sites.

Opening an affiliate program sounds like a good idea, what would be neccessary for me to provide for that? I'll also sign up for some affiliate programs, not a bad idea at all... mor sites are already in planing...

Thanks so much for this ideas!

Michelle

Toby
03-20-2008, 04:50 PM
It looks like you're relying mostly on toplists and search engines for traffic. The quality is usually good, but building volume is very difficult.

Setting up an affiliate program is one solution, but there's quite a lot involved. The billing part is usually pretty simple, most processors have a ready made solution available. Setting up and maintaining promo content for affiliates (zips, hosted galleries, banners, etc.) is time consuming, but without them you won't get many affiliates to promote your site.

Here are some additional options:
Paid ads (banner or text link) on high traffic sites with niche relevant traffic, a nylon niche TGP for example.

Submit galleries to niche relevant TGP's.

Contact review sites about adding a review of your site.

Open your own TGP and list your own galleries, banners, etc. along with sponsor galleries. You don't even have to take outside submits if you don't want to deal with it. The key there is setting up traffic trades with other similar TGP's.

All of these take time, energy and money. The easy money days are long gone.

NylonMichelle
03-20-2008, 08:37 PM
Toby, thanks for your valuable tips :-) In addition I do a lot of pic posts, that bring a good traffic and posting on boards. Where can I buy text adds? I once bought traffic from traffichocker (or so), and that was pretty useless...

I would do some TGP posts, but I havent managed to make one yet. I can work quite well with photoshop, but I am lacking on the programing site. Any tip for that? Any software or instruction online? Havent found anything usefull yet... If you know anybody around, doing TGP galleries for pay, I would also be glad...

I spent a lot of time on my site & traffic... it is paying out for me, but I got the feeling it could be more with around 120 members per now... (4 months online).

Kisses,

Michelle

Thanks again

Toby
03-20-2008, 10:52 PM
Most niche TGP's don't use brokers for ads, any that do are probably not going to be price competitive for you anyway. If you see a site where you'd like to place an ad, there is usually contact info on the webmaster/submit/trade page(s).

TGP galleries don't need to be fancy, basic HTML with some well worded sales text, and 12-16 nice thumbs. Here's one of my more recent efforts. Nothing fancy. http://www.bevyofbabes.com/tgp/angels-feet/red-valentines-stockings/indexc.htm

Another benefit of building galleries to submit to TGP's is that you can very easily modify them for use as hosted galleries when you do decide to launch an affiliate program. I always recommend that a new site wait on launching an affiliate program. In my opinion you'll be far better off in the long run, building up your own traffic, continuing to build up site content, fine tuning site tours etc. so that when you do finally launch an affiliate program it's about supplementing existing income not about creating a traffic base.

I've seen far too many new sites launch affiliate programs right out of the gate as a means of generating traffic, with little or no promo materials, minimal site content, etc. which meant poor conversion and retention for affiliates. You only get one chance to make a first impression, screw that up and those top affiliates will move on and won't be back when you do get things sorted.

Be patient, I think you're doing fine. 120 members after just 4 months isn't bad at all. Just keep expanding those traffic sources.

NylonMichelle
03-23-2008, 03:25 PM
Hey Toby,

thanks alot for that advice. Maybe I will try to come up with my own first TGP galeries to submit. I will keep it simple for the beginning :-) What kind of html editor do you use?

Michelle

Toby
03-23-2008, 04:49 PM
My favorite tools for building galleries

Dreamweaver for HTML, as well as for managing all my sites.

Arles (http://www.digitaldutch.com/arles/) by Digital Dutch for batch processing thumbs and resizing large images.

1-4a Rename (http://www.1-4a.com/rename/) to easily rename a whole folder of images.

Paint Shop Pro 7 for making headers, page graphics, individual thumbs as needed, etc.

jscott
03-24-2008, 11:55 AM
Toby, if you like those then I'm sure you'd love ACDSee also :)

NylonMichelle
04-05-2008, 07:50 PM
thanks for those advice. I will do some tries with Dreamweaver, with Photoshop I am already not too bad :-)