DDF New T&Cs - WTF
Received an email from DDF with new T&Cs including all affiliates now have to send them an invoice before they will pay. Jesus the affiliate side of business is already hard but if all sponsors now need this it's getting to the silly/fuck it stage! Here is the full mail from DDF
Dear Affiliates, Moving forward, we need to request some documentation from all affiliates with the following information. This is to stay in accordance with current accounting regulations and is mandatory for us from December 1st 2015. We will need these documents on hand prior to December 2015. They must absolutely be accurate. Your Billing Contact info Company Name: Company Address: Company Country: Email: First name: Last Name: Website: Best way to Contact you: For example - Email, Gtalk, ICQ, SKype ================== We will also need an invoice from you each month that a payment is due to you with the following information: - Date Range of Payment Requested ( Example - 2015-11-01 - 2015-11-29 ) - Exact payment amount Please set your invoice description to: « DDF Cash affiliate payout + date of Payment Requested :For example 2015-11-01 - 2015-11-29 Please bill to: DDF Media BV Dockweg 33B 1976C IJMUIDEN Netherlands Thank you for your compliance. We will need this in order to pay you out Starting December 1st. Any questions, please contact me by any means below. Cheers! Best--Paul DDF Productions Director of Marketing Skype: Marketing.ddf Webmaster@DDFCash.com |
They essentially just created a reason to not pay people, and at the very least hang on to your money longer.
If they need an invoice for legal reasons, i.e. to avoid affiliates being considered employees under Dutch/EU law, then there are still ways to automate and make that process electronic. The snail mail hard copy process is being deliberately difficult. |
Sending sponsors invoice to get paid, what a "fuck you" to affiliates.
It's an obvious step towards not wanting to pay. WTF |
I have to say, that all my life I have had to submit invoices to get paid. That is a pretty normal way of transacting business. I believe this is EU regs coming onstream. But there is nothing fundamentally wrong with presenting invoices. It also gives you a legal document if you do not get paid.
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Also... this is essentially commission sales, which very rarely has to be invoiced in order to get paid. |
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Have you guys ever had a job, an offline employer, where you have to type up, or fill out invoices to get paid?
Sure, at the beginning you have to give payment info and documents, but for EVERY payment? that is just ridiculous, waste of time, paper, and actually just some bullshit! |
Been in this business for 11 years (on the affiliate side of things) and have never been asked to raise an invoice, ever.
Whilst I understand the legal/business side of it how come DDF are the only ones to ever bring it up? I have other European based sponsors and, so far, nothing from them. |
I'd started a new topic about this on GFY a day before Geoff started this one here. DDF finally responded, and they seem surprised at the reaction.
http://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...-yourself.html (I'm incognito as Qbert* on GFY, too many peeps I don't care to do biz with) |
for those that want to read the DDF reply. He's kindof being a douche about it (ddfcash reply)
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Guys...i have to admit, they are doing the right thing. I agree that there are ways to automate the process (other european affiliate programs automatically create an invoice for you in example), but they do say they are working on this.
Things are changing, especially in europe... authorities are starting to open their eyes on our business and...well let's face it...for the most part, payments are not following the law. In every job you need to send an invoice to get paid... i agree it's a pain in the a** but again...you can't blame a company for following the law. |
Ohhhh well yes if that's the European law then i can't blame them for following the law. But why are the rest of European companies not announcing the same thing about this?
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It's not really the why, but the how that was the issue.
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