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Old 07-24-2010, 09:02 PM
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Well some problems are this:

1. free porn, ratios going down, this is everyone and this will generally never quit, the more free porn out there causes more and more surfers to learn about and become more comfortable using the free porn sites. Eventually it'll be all porn users wanting free porn, except for a rare handful who want the newest stuff from a certain site
If you are talking a general hardcore "fucking and sucking" site, then I agree. That can be had anywhere. But seeing this is a LEGwebmasters forum, it is a bit more specialized content. With webmasters here promoting or the webmaster of a foot, leg, stocking or pantyhose site.

I have posted links to that Pornusers forum before and some of the comments that had been posted on that site, by guys who JOIN porn sites, were that 1--some of them can't be bother to try and track down free stuff and 2--If they do find it, it's incomplete and/or the quality is much poorer than if they were to actually join the site.

Again, I feel this is something that is up to all webmasters, to monitor these illegal sites and get our content taken down.

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2. sponsors not paying, this year alone I've seen over 10 of my own sponsors dip out, not pay, etc, (this is non epoch/verotel/ccbill paying sponsors) they just vanish and never pay
Okay well that's just shitty business practices and when that stuff happens people usually let other webmasters know via forums. Or so it seems...

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3. bad ethics, even ccbill sponsors that normally are forced to pay, will just change their programs to NATS billing or others and just collect your free traffic, with no notification
Not everyone is going to do that, there are STILL honest webmasters out there. And again, when sites do that, it's up to webmasters to share that info on these sorts of forums. Don't promote people who do shady business.

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4. x-sells, The long term effect that pre checked x-sells is doing is killing the surfers (ex-possible customers) desire to ever buy again, they buy what they think is a $30/mo membership and get assbanged for over $100 per transaction!!! Then when they try to chargeback or cancel they get harrassed! pre checked x-sells is VERY common btw.
I hate to admit this, but I don't even know what pre checked cross sales are...

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5. competition, Even as times are getting rougher, sales slowing, ratios getting worse, surfers getting scammed, even with all that, there is even MORE COMPETITION than ever!!! Sure us old timers have the advantage on getting great SE rankings with our old sites, and usually more knowledge and info, but from what I see, the competition is rising bigtime! And, a lot of these new younger competitors are coming in and going about things with no shame, wanting a fast buck, and sometimes their persistent attitude does eventually get there sites ranked high with certain keywords
Yeah, I've seen that before. "Garbage" sites getting high rankings on Google. But then Google seems to be changing their rankings every now and then so I don't keep up with that too much.

Competition isn't a bad thing. You will have that in any field. Sometimes competition makes you step up your game.

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I can go on and on, on the general speaking field, we are doomed, this is fact in my mind (I hate to say it, )
And that's OKAY. We are all entitled to our opinion on the current state of things.

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There will be ways to avoid losing profits and those seem to be:

1. adapt with the ways, scam customers, steal content, open tubes pushing dating and cams
Yes, no, no, don't know.

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2. making VERY VERY VERY special content website, that are unique and very hard to do, and come by, also forums, chats, social networks etc
100% exclusive content--I agree with you there. Exclusive model, exclusive videos and photo sets that can't be found elsewhere. And monitor content theft forums to get your exclusive content removed.

So all that being said and done.....what about all the guys that DO buy memberships to sites?? Are they just going to up and die? I don't see that side of things brought in here.

If a guy JUST wants to see someone getting fucked, well, hell yeah they can find that anywhere on the net. But...,.

---If a guy is crazy about a particular model and can only find her stuff in one place and always rejoins for new stuff....what about him?

---If a guy has a favorite foot fetish site that he loves because of the models and the angles the photographer shoots the feet at (a photographer who understands and gets the foot fetish thing)--what about him?

---If a guy has a particular fetish for something and finds a site that does it well and really flips his switch and he keeps coming back for more--what about him??

There ARE guys who are PAYING for memberships and they aren't going anywhere. Give them something UNIQUE that they can't find anywhere else. Do it in a way that no one else is doing. THOSE are the types of sites that are going to pull through this, IMHO. Doing a general fucking site, well, hell yeah you can find that all over the place.

As Suckerpunch stated in another thread, this is the 'shakedown' period. And it will be interesting to see who is still around in 6 months to a years time.
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