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Old 05-27-2009, 08:03 AM
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Post your worst Sponsor ratios you have currently with nylon free site traffic. I want to get rid of some of these programs that are wasting our time and traffic. I apologize to any sponsors that post here that may get toes stepped on, but we are all in a very tight recession that is kicking all our asses to the point that the tours need to be leak free and convert atleast @ 1:5k ... beyond that is getting to be just insane. We do still work in a niche, this is not just general traffic, so conversions should be decent at worst. See what everyone else is working with, thanks folks and cheers already ;-)
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Old 05-29-2009, 10:10 PM
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I think it's easy to weed out the worst, you should maybe focus on the best converting instead? We are doing 1:448 this month for http://www.stockingsonpornstars.com, not too bad.
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Old 05-30-2009, 04:56 AM
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yeah, i never would have guessed, we are just trying to get the sponsors who are lagging to maybe put a little more effort in. Beyond a quick answer like that, you might notice alot of the best content comes from sponsors with the worst tour, and in turn creates horrible ratios. This can become a quick issue to rectify, but if you are generating clicks, why not generate sales?... So as my original post said, what sponsors are converting at low ratios, what sponsors are not preforming as they maybe did in the past, what can we do as a SMALL niche to generate more sales from this niche's sponsors to make us ALL more money ;-) [/rant]


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Old 05-30-2009, 07:23 AM
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I actually never really check, I just concentrate on building traffic, building building building and hope those sponsors converting ok, I do a sponsor cleanup only a few times/year, weeding out the 1:10,000 type ratio sites etc
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Old 06-03-2009, 11:50 AM
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yeah, i never would have guessed, we are just trying to get the sponsors who are lagging to maybe put a little more effort in. Beyond a quick answer like that, you might notice alot of the best content comes from sponsors with the worst tour, and in turn creates horrible ratios. This can become a quick issue to rectify, but if you are generating clicks, why not generate sales?... So as my original post said, what sponsors are converting at low ratios, what sponsors are not preforming as they maybe did in the past, what can we do as a SMALL niche to generate more sales from this niche's sponsors to make us ALL more money ;-) [/rant]


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All very interesting and I know where you are coming from. However I am not sure I can agree with all your sentiments. I am an affiliate (3 sites) and a sponsor (3 sites) but here I will focus and comment with my affiliate hat on!

I treat my sites as a business (I do nothing else so the web is full time for me) and make decisions based statistical facts. I also try and avoid "short termism" i.e. I look at longer periods not just recent figures. On that basis here are my points -

Leak free or leaky makes NO DIFFERENCE whatsoever. 7 out of my top 10 converters have leaky tours. It's ONLY about content.

Sites blow hot and cold. One of my top 10 in the first quarter is currently awful. Why? My personal opinion is that the promo stuff they have provided recently is off target market.

It only takes 1 or 2 sales to improve conversion to great levels from crap and that can happen any day. You never know.

Why do you post galleries? I only post what I REALLY like (ok 97% of the time) so my site(s) are exactly that - MINE. I do not just post galleries for the sake of it.

Do you work closely with your sponsors? I do. In fact in most of my top 10 cases I am a member of their sites and take my own images as I need them whilst sticking religiously to any rules they have given me.

If I like a site, or model, I will write to the contact and ask for stuff. I get a reasonable level of responses.

Now with my Sponsors hat on - not one affiliate has written to me to ask for specific stuff or galleries. If they did, and we had what they wanted, we would gladly let them have it.

By the way, only 15% of our affiliates are active and they do very well (I hope). A large number sign up and then do nothing. Zip! Why did they bother?

OK difficult to wear two hats I concede but hope this helps.
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:05 PM
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Yes true ...
But many persons signing up for cash programs, like you said, are doing nothing....for my part, the traffic is coming from only 5 or 6 TGPs, I got some from social network, and .....that's all !
Like I said before, not in this post, many surfers are JUST looking the updates of the TGPs without signing in any websites.....with 12 pics or 3 vid, they got all they want ....even if you look at some mega websites,like Orgymax can have, you will see that they change their way to proceed....
They got an update page, then a preview of the updates on a page, then you go on the site list ...and THEN you can finally see samples ....just because the surfer have to stay a little more longer to see what he wants to see....
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:16 PM
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Yes true ...
But many persons signing up for cash programs, like you said, are doing nothing....for my part, the traffic is coming from only 5 or 6 TGPs, I got some from social network, and .....that's all !
Like I said before, not in this post, many surfers are JUST looking the updates of the TGPs without signing in any websites.....with 12 pics or 3 vid, they got all they want ....even if you look at some mega websites,like Orgymax can have, you will see that they change their way to proceed....
They got an update page, then a preview of the updates on a page, then you go on the site list ...and THEN you can finally see samples ....just because the surfer have to stay a little more longer to see what he wants to see....

By nothing I meant zero traffic not zero sign ups. In a lot of cases we have never, ever been promoted in anyway shape or form.

Oh and then there are the affiliates who post a banner - and that's it. Then they wonder why the sales don't roll in! Duh!

On the other issue I post 24-36 pics per gallery at www.glamourimages.net (my own galleries and everything hosted by me) and judging by my conversions it works for me and my sponsors.

I don't think there is a right or wrong way and until someone is brave enough to show all their facts and figures then we will never know. The only thing I will say is that a potential new member wants to know what he (or she) is getting for their money and how you do that will always be a matter of debate.
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True too...... I work with some friends to promote our websites in our memberzone ...that's the third issue, so work together...we don't use any cash program for it, and that works nice
Finally we got many ways to promote them .
Sorry, I am in the breakfast....coffee anyone ?
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I didnt read all that LOL, it's book material LOL

BUT, i did read "coffee anyone" and, YES!!! I'm brewing a pot right now anyone care to join us (me and Somona?)
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I didnt read all that LOL, it's book material LOL

BUT, i did read "coffee anyone" and, YES!!! I'm brewing a pot right now anyone care to join us (me and Somona?)
Print it off and read it with your coffee LOL! It's worth it honest
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I didnt read all that LOL, it's book material LOL

BUT, i did read "coffee anyone" and, YES!!! I'm brewing a pot right now anyone care to join us (me and Somona?)

yes sure ...I just made some scones and cookies ...do U want some ???
For the topic, I let Cots write for the summary .... ... but it's quite my fault. i always talk too much
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