Danica Collins Retires

[js69]

I just read on another board that Danica has "retired". Is that all there is to this story?

http://www.danicacollins.co.uk/2013/my-retirement/

[Toby]

Not hearing anything else, so far, regarding why.

[jscott]

I never knew who she is til just now.

Holy crap, 30yrs in the biz!

[js69]

And now Lady Sonia says she will be following soon.

[js69]

Originally Posted by jscott

I never knew who she is til just now.

Holy crap, 30yrs in the biz!

About the time I did my first porn film....

[Toby]

Originally Posted by js69

And now Lady Sonia says she will be following soon.

Not a big surprise based on how the site has evolved over the last couple of years.

[js69]

Originally Posted by Toby

Not a big surprise based on how the site has evolved over the last couple of years.

I never thought giving away a product was a good business plan. But as the bondage club guy on Pat Pong Street in BKK says....."never try, never know"

[jscott]

"same same but diffalent"

haha

[cots]

Originally Posted by jscott

I never knew who she is til just now.

Holy crap, 30yrs in the biz!

And you call yourself a leg/stockings man - Jeez

I read on www.beerandbollocks.com that she was retiring from modelling. Her site will continue. If I read it correctly there are still a lot of updates in the can (300 +) for updates. I know the guy who runs the site really well. He lives here in Tenerife so I will give him a call and meet up for a beer.

Sonia has been "retiring" for quite a while, so that one comes as no surprise. It takes courage in some ways to call it a day but it comes to us all. Astrid retired nearly two years ago but even now, when times get tough, she threatens to pull on her stockings again and crank out a couple of sets. But the end is the end.

There are two ways of looking at this. Is it a great opportunity for someone, some new model, or are we saying the market has gone and no one wants to see stockings pics anymore?

I believe the market is there as strong as ever. Jan's new site proves that to me. It's growing monthly and still seems to have a way to go. OK we may have to go about our business differently but there are still thousands of guys (and gals) out there that will pay for stockings and pantyhose material. The bigger problem is that there are no new sites coming through (solo) that are either any good or run "professionally". When we started back in the day (12 years ago), we were amateurs but times were much easier. We learnt quickly and made some good money given the limitations we had (glamour not porn and Astrid hated video).

Nowadays amateur newbies come and go quickly because they don't see the returns that we used to. Hosting, and especially billing costs, quickly become a burden when the revenue isn't there.

The demise of the affiliate system is a big blow. A big blow. It used to be the powerhouse of growth and revenues. But greedy affiliates with stupid rules killed it. They forced site owners to undermine them by looking for their own sources of traffic instead of working with sponsors for mutual benefit. If you continually beat people with a big stick and create rules that are stupid they will eventually fight back. The steam rotators, trade scripts, skimming and circle jerking have pissed off the surfers. They have killed the goose that laid the golden egg - for themselves and their sponsors.

Instead of playing the big "I am" or constantly moaning about how bad things are we need to be working more closely together, sharing numbers, discussing ideas, what works or doesn't. In personal management/development it is constantly said that you need to surround yourself with the right people, mentors, peers, thinkers. Most of us work in a totally isolated world, and our only access to knowledge is via forums like this one (one of THE best), but most forums are full of bullshitters or ego maniacs looking for who they can totally belittle next. They are, in the main, not good environments to learn in - especially if you don't have the skin of an armadillo!

Rant over

[NinjaSteve]

Jay-Z retired from hip hop years ago. And he came back! There's always hope!

[SGS]

Originally Posted by js69

And now Lady Sonia says she will be following soon.

We retired from everything but solo shoots just over 3 years ago and as soon as shooting stops being fun then we will be out too.

Actually from Monday the 7th of October our site will have the remaining few "HC" videos taken down and will be 100% solo content.

[SGS]

Btw, Danica has been a very special friend for very many years and as always we wish her all the best for the future.

[SGS]

Originally Posted by cots

Instead of playing the big "I am" or constantly moaning about how bad things are we need to be working more closely together, sharing numbers, discussing ideas, what works or doesn't.

Rant over

Have been saying that for years and have some great "non affiliate" link share and promo partnerships with a few sites that make a lot more money for us than the old rev share model ever did.

[cots]

Originally Posted by SGS

Have been saying that for years and have some great "non affiliate" link share and promo partnerships with a few sites that make a lot more money for us than the old rev share model ever did.

I am always happy to do banner swaps/guest gallery exchanges and anything else "non affiliate linked" that I can arrange. Most people seem to have given up on the good old "tools". Shame.

If you want to do something with us then just ask or get John to mail me.

Any ideas, from anyone, that leads to mutually beneficial traffic/sales will be welcomed at any time!

[js69]

I played the co operation card over at the B and B board. I just turned into a troll fest of negativity. I don't think its in the nature of webmasters to co operate.
And our little end of the web is so small, it would be worth it. A little civility would go a long way to making it happen. Kinda like OPEC.....it seemed to work well for them.