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EonBlue 02-26-2017 05:34 PM

OT Cash and JB Video
 
Anyone know what is going on with these programs?

OT Cash hasn't released any new galleries since October 2015.

A whole bunch of JB Video FHG's stopped working. All of the ones that are on the "promo" subdomain, ex: http://promo.jbvideo.com/Apromo/BRIAF/?affid=1300725

These two programs used to be the best converting for me but now it looks like they are both being abandoned.

jscott 02-26-2017 09:41 PM

OTCash has been absent for quite a long time. Remember back when they had their competitions? Used to love those. Sucks see they not updating. I can try contacting Paul see what he says about it.

jscott 02-26-2017 09:51 PM

Damn, a lot of their old thread images are password protected now too, thus not showing up on forums (thread here)

Sent Paul a PM

js69 02-27-2017 04:32 AM

Keep us updated, J.

nyllover 02-27-2017 03:02 PM

Damn keep us updated, that doesn't look any good :(

cots 02-28-2017 09:54 AM

You need to get in touch with the site owners and get member area passes if you can. These two are not alone. There are many sponsor programs not being updated.

I chatted with a couple of models who use partners and they both said that the guys who run their affiliate side are almost wholly focused on tube site promotions, and not traditional TGPs.

What really does piss me off is when a sponsor sings the praises of the programme just to get new affiliate sign ups - then you find no new galleries for two or three years or even longer! That is so annoying!

js69 02-28-2017 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cots (Post 11606)
You need to get in touch with the site owners and get member area passes if you can. These two are not alone. There are many sponsor programs not being updated.

I chatted with a couple of models who use partners and they both said that the guys who run their affiliate side are almost wholly focused on tube site promotions, and not traditional TGPs.

What really does piss me off is when a sponsor sings the praises of the programme just to get new affiliate sign ups - then you find no new galleries for two or three years or even longer! That is so annoying!

If you just want to watch OT, just do a free tube search. One Tube has 341 OT videos, another 221...with no links to the original site.

jscott 03-08-2017 11:15 AM

I'm pretty sure there is no reply coming :(

BitchenBob 03-08-2017 09:41 PM

I emailed Paul a couple times last year with no response :(

js69 03-09-2017 02:35 AM

have they tanked?

jscott 03-09-2017 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by js69 (Post 11623)
have they tanked?

Not looking good, especially in terms of new promo, new content, and general sponsor being active :confused:

Paul Paul, where you at yo!!?

Toby 03-09-2017 03:48 AM

OT Cash sites are still being updated almost daily with new content, but the aff. prog. is pretty much being ignored.

nyllover 03-09-2017 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby (Post 11625)
OT Cash sites are still being updated almost daily with new content

That could have been scheduled months ago though... our feet4cash sites have updates scheduled for the next year in example....

But i find it hard to believe that a "monster" like OT could face any serious problems!

js69 03-10-2017 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyllover (Post 11626)
That could have been scheduled months ago though... our feet4cash sites have updates scheduled for the next year in example....

But i find it hard to believe that a "monster" like OT could face any serious problems!

Lady Sonia crashed and burned and was rescued by Kenny. No one is too big to fail.

nyllover 03-10-2017 12:26 PM

That's very true...

cots 03-11-2017 11:02 AM

Not sure what all the fuss is about! Many sponsors have become less and less reliant on their affiliate programs over the past few years. Since the TGP crash along with everything else in 2008/9 affiliates have become far less productive and time can be better spent!
I communicate with OT regularly and have a member pass to grab content. This is the new way of the affiliate world. Sponsors will work with affiliates that produce!
As a sponsor I have seen a massive drop off in affiliate sales. We realistically only have about 20 affiliates that produce - down from 200 a few years ago. We still put out new affiliate material but in reality that is at the expense of not doing something else.
As for Lady Sonia I do not know the whole story but many of their problems, like others, were caused by changes of law in the UK. Many panicked and just closed up shop. Those that stayed around saw reduced sales because of the legal limitations. Others moved their operations to get around the laws (and taxes) often using a partner outside the UK like Kenny.

jscott 03-11-2017 01:43 PM

I agree Geoff, but as an affiliate it's also nice to know the scoop, what's up with our sponsors that we promote.

Making notes, this sponsor will not reply, this sponsor has every tool or will create tools when needed, this sponsor doesnt pay, this sponsor ratios are great, or terrible etc etc

js69 03-11-2017 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cots (Post 11629)
Not sure what all the fuss is about! Many sponsors have become less and less reliant on their affiliate programs over the past few years. Since the TGP crash along with everything else in 2008/9 affiliates have become far less productive and time can be better spent!
I communicate with OT regularly and have a member pass to grab content. This is the new way of the affiliate world. Sponsors will work with affiliates that produce!
As a sponsor I have seen a massive drop off in affiliate sales. We realistically only have about 20 affiliates that produce - down from 200 a few years ago. We still put out new affiliate material but in reality that is at the expense of not doing something else.
As for Lady Sonia I do not know the whole story but many of their problems, like others, were caused by changes of law in the UK. Many panicked and just closed up shop. Those that stayed around saw reduced sales because of the legal limitations. Others moved their operations to get around the laws (and taxes) often using a partner outside the UK like Kenny.

I think Lady Sonia's problems began when buddy that owns it decided that the new way of marketing was to give away everything for free and those of us who didn't were behind the curve. I think he was listening to JT. He was floundering badly and his wife went back into "customer relations" and every video he ever made seemed to be free on any number of tube sites and everywhere else. I think some kind of panic got him. If OT is still going strong, good on them. I have always liked their business model.

EonBlue 03-14-2017 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cots (Post 11606)
You need to get in touch with the site owners and get member area passes if you can.

Contacted OT Cash for a members pass but no reply so far. Who is the best person to contact there?

jscott 03-15-2017 11:33 AM

Paul was always the go to guy, but he doesn't reply anymore.

If i hear from him i'll let him know you're also trying to get in touch.

EonBlue 03-15-2017 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 11650)
Paul was always the go to guy, but he doesn't reply anymore.

If i hear from him i'll let him know you're also trying to get in touch.

Thanks. I actually emailed Jade as per their website but maybe that info is out of date too. I'll resend the email to Paul.

js69 03-15-2017 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 11652)
Thanks. I actually emailed Jade as per their website but maybe that info is out of date too. I'll resend the email to Paul.

If you mean satin jade, I would like to know if she is still shooting. I think the same guy that ran nylon sue ran her as well. I never did know who he was.

Toby 03-15-2017 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by js69 (Post 11653)
If you mean satin jade, I would like to know if she is still shooting. I think the same guy that ran nylon sue ran her as well. I never did know who he was.

No, this Jade is/was an affiliate rep for OTCash. She's listed on their contact page. I'm not sure they even have any affiliate reps any more.

As for Satin Jayde (with a Y)... I received a batch of new FHGs in early Feb. The content wasn't repackaged stuff I'd seen before, so I have to assume she's still shooting, even if it's sporadic. Site still updates weekly, though I can't say for sure that all of the content is new.

EonBlue 03-15-2017 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by js69 (Post 11653)
If you mean satin jade, I would like to know if she is still shooting. I think the same guy that ran nylon sue ran her as well. I never did know who he was.

Ya, like Toby said I meant Jade who is listed as the affiliate rep on the OT Cash site. Whether she is still there or not she hasn't responded.

cots 03-15-2017 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by js69 (Post 11653)
If you mean satin jade, I would like to know if she is still shooting. I think the same guy that ran nylon sue ran her as well. I never did know who he was.

It was/is Nylon Sue herself who ran/runs the site but I think her hubby (Satin Jayde's) does the shooting for her site.

Sue is backwards and forwards between the UK and South Africa hence you get quiet times. All stuff for Sue's and her other sites is shot in the UK when she is there.

cots 03-15-2017 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 11657)
Ya, like Toby said I meant Jade who is listed as the affiliate rep on the OT Cash site. Whether she is still there or not she hasn't responded.

Jade isn't the contact any longer at OT. I will have to dig through my mails and see if I can find an updated contact.


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