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Originally Posted by Eddi
you should not believe everything you read.
2400 recurring monthly members ?! thats highly unlikely for a niche paysite without affiliate program, even at
the beginning of the internets and even with an affiliateprogram behind.
a huge well known paysite with a rabbit in their logo (you all know of which brand we are talking of) made aprox 1800
online sales a month in 2008 (pls. dont ask me the source)
so , a bit common sense here...you really think that a huge brand, known for decades with a worldwide distribution
of magazines and movies has only 6 times more online sales than a small, privately runned paysite...common..!!
i even highly doubt the paysite makes 2k a week (no matter if gross or net). given the traffic they have (around 500 dailyvisits a day, source:
public whois sites) means they would convert with a ratio of 1:56 (with 29,99 gross per sale) !! you believe that ?!! of course not...
even if it is true, why would the owner sell then ?!! if runned privately by a couple, this is an income of 8k a month (no matter if net or gross)
bottomline: yes, the site has definately potential, yes it needs redesign and an affiliate program behind it. based on more realistic ratios like 1:500
(still optimistic) the real income of that paysite is around 30-50 sales a month or 900-1500 $ gross revenue, times 6 month and we have a maximum
value of 9000 $ for the paysite. which is the maximum realistic bid they can ask for.
but again, i can be wrong, after all we are all millionaire webmasters posting from the bench of our yachts , right  |
I am not sure where all this data comes from but there are a couple of distinct errors. PHA Bucks has been going for years supporting all their sites and I have been an affiliate for most of that time.
We do not have one site that has less than 1,000 visits a day, and our main site has many more than that. Despite that, we think of ourselves as smallish - that was the whole point of starting this thread.
Although it is in all respects a multi girl site, pantyhoseaddict.com was, for most of it's history, the home of Izzy, one of the best know pantyhose models on the web. She ranked up there with Kryztal Red, Roni and others as the "Queens" of the nylon/leg models. They had all kinds of tgps, toplists, forums and other traffic generating vehicles to add to their affiliate scheme. So I can well believe that 2400 members (for the whole group of sites maybe) at it's peak is feasible.
I have no idea what your sites do but if you think 1:500 conversion is optimistic then we all may as well give in. Every site (and I promote most of yours at
www.glamourimages.net) ) has it's ups and downs. Some months conversion is fantastic, then a site can go 5-7 weeks without a sign up. None of us will ever know why. My Top 10 sites at GI, on average, all convert at below 1:350 with one or two converting at 1:200 or better.
I repeat something I said in an earlier post. We are 40% or so down on 2007/8 but that still leaves us way over $1500 a month.
No I am not sat on my yacht, or in any kind of luxurious holiday home, but we make a very reasonable living still, even it is way below a few years ago.
Why would Chris want to sell? Why not? if he can get a good price, especially if his personal circumstances have changed, which he does allude to, then go for it. He has been doing it since 1996 so maybe he just wants a change.
Whether you believe him or not there is one fact that is 100% true.
From the heady days of the late 90's and early 2000's this business is now really, really hard work. My first site (launched 2000) earned over $1000 per week from 500-750 unique visitors and I can honestly say that I had no idea what I was doing. Oh and we had no affiliate scheme as they didn't exist way back then.