[jscott]

I also agree with Toby, send clicks 1st then hitup the webmaster asking for trade, if they see clicks coming in there is MUCH better chance they'll listen to you and accept trade

BUT

times they/we don't like to listen or trade is, when you open brand new site, have 0 se clicks, send us 0 traffic, and want us to manually add your trade to trade with our 10 year old site, with 3000 se clicks that will send you productive traffic back instantly (this is a HUGE normal for lazy webmasters nowdays), it's a way for them to get good traffic for doing no work, and sending small amounts of shitty productive traffic back