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Not all affiliates are like you my friend unfortunately.
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I have trusted affiliates and it works really well. But they have to be communicative and, of course, sell product.
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Exactly. I've never denied a request like that...but it's not like you get that kind of requests often...
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Not anywhere near often enough over the years. Most affiliates just take the quickest least amount of work option/tools then wonder why they struggle to make sales.
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Staggered most of the time that affiliates don't even ask for a pass to come in and take a look around the site they are going to try to sell. Unfortunately in the past all that affiliates had to do was throw up a load of (program prepared) links so when all of a sudden this throw shit at the wall method no longer works 100,000 affiliates suddenly become 1000.
Having traffic used to be a valuable resource. Being able to sell is now a lot more important.
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As an affiliate of your sites I can honestly say I do my best. Yes I confess I haven't approached many sponsors with specific proposals, but equally nor have you two gentlemen approached me. If I am doing things wrong, or can do things better then tell me and I will listen. We are in tough times and we are, I hope, in it together to get the best possible results. I have tested many ideas, even set up multiple Aff IDs to get the most accurate results, so I am seriously open to ideas. In 2008, my best year as an affiliate, my revenue was $81,000, all profit. In 2012 it was $42,000 and this year, so far, it's down even further. There seems, on the surface, to be several reasons for this including - * Less good sponsors - especially solo models * Fewer clicks out to sponsors (until very recently conversions had held up) * More difficult to get appropriate content/galleries * Some spectacular downturns in sponsor performance (e.g one site used to do $2000 per month and now struggles to do $50 So please help me, and other reputable affiliates, to help you and get maximum benefit from a system that can still produce, even though it could do better. |
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Affiliates are great but they have to be able to actually "sell" now or they will just go broke and become too expensive to maintain. A lot of big programs started to see that affiliates were calling far too many of the shots a few years back and they started to realize that in-house was a lot more efficient. Affiliates bring in extra sales and that's great but the days of everything hanging on affiliate only traffic is long gone.
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We can get clicks to *good* sponsors the same now as we did in 2005, problem is that there are just far fewer *good* sponsors now. Some of our best selling sites have been the sites that have recently closed. Far too many cookie cutter shit glam sites that manage to strip away all of the personality of the model or far too many shooting the same old shit they were shooting ten years ago and the punter is bored to death with it. The punter can now find much better on Tumblr and if they spent the next fifteen years there they wouldn't see the same stuff twice.
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Once again I agree with the principal but it doesn't answer my question. What are we supposed to do to "sell" the sponsors site? You are not being specific.
Whilst I understand the growing interest in building in-house traffic it is incredibly time consuming and some of us are not lucky enough to have teams of people to undertake specific tasks. As a one man band it's a case of best results for least work, and I don't mean not working, more prioritisation. One other interesting point are the demands from affiliates. My biggest argument (as a pay site owner as well), is the one of "leak free tours". Your very own site dropped ours because of our "leaky tours". . We have changed that now to meet affiliate demands - but lost tons of "in-house" traffic at the same time. At one stage it was even stated that links to Twitter and Yahoo were "leaks". Catch 22 or pot calling kettle black? |
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The problem, i think, is especially evident with "small" program owners (as myself). We try to provide promo material as much as we can, but it's nearly impossible to "nail it" for every single affiliate we have.
Best thing an affiliate can do (for his own benefit too!) is to try to promote our sites using the content that works well in the site he's planning to advertise them in. And what better way then come and grab it by himself? As for not contacting every affiliate asking if they want a password...well, we send (as everyone) affiliate emails, always ending with things like "contact us for any sort of need you might have". Ok nearly no one, probably, reads affiliate e-mails but...what else can we do? Phone them up?
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Why should you need to? The affiliate gets paid and that's the affiliates job?
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