Drama thread - Zoligirls

[Toby]

Originally Posted by zoligirls

...I get 99% of my traffic through friends who I had banner exchanges with since 2000 and I’m not dumping them just cause that’s what some webmasters want...

I don't have a dog in this fight, I'm not an affiliate of zologirls and I'm and I'm not really interested in who is right or wrong in this dispute.

My comment is strictly in regards to the above quote, from an affiliate poiint of view.

The best solution would be an alternate leak free affiliate tour. No need to remove your existing banner exchanges or change the existing tour. Simply duplicate it in a subfolder with all the external links removed.

[zoligirls]

Originally Posted by Toby

I don't have a dog in this fight, I'm not an affiliate of zologirls and I'm and I'm not really interested in who is right or wrong in this dispute.

My comment is strictly in regards to the above quote, from an affiliate poiint of view.

The best solution would be an alternate leak free affiliate tour. No need to remove your existing banner exchanges or change the existing tour. Simply duplicate it in a subfolder with all the external links removed.

Good day Toby
Please dont get me wrong i am not here to ask people to take sides at all. this thread was started a while back. I was told about it by a webmasters who is a friend of mine and told me to answer it a long time ego , at that poin i had no energy or the time for a childish go around, As for your input Toby about putting the links into a different folder, If you would be so kind as to explain to me how to make that happen with out having to change all the code on my Auto rank page i would apritiate your time and effort, Chris never explained it to me or even directed me in the right direction, i,m in no means a webmaster, I,m a photographer with minimal knowlege of webmastership.

With regards
Zoli

[somona]

So Zoli ...Toby gives you a good solution

Somona xxx

[zoligirls]

i guess he does I have no idea what hes talking about but i will ask some webmaster friends on GFy .. Thanks.

[somona]

The only thing I know about Toby is that he always knows what he is talking about ...his advices are often good

Somona

[Toby]

Originally Posted by zoligirls

If you would be so kind as to explain to me how to make that happen with out having to change all the code on my Auto rank page.

That's simple. You don't put the autorank on the affiliate tour. That would be a traffic leak.

Traffic leak = any link that goes to another site or to a pages selling something the affiliate does not get credit for. (clip stores, etc.)

[zoligirls]

Thank you Toby for explaining that to me.. So let me see if i got this right, if i go and make a ccbill leak free tour that only goes to the join page for the affiliates than i can still leave my regular tour and links page alone. So when a pottential client clicks in lets say through your ccbill id, they have no place to go but to view a special tour other than the one that is open to all viewers to join the site or leave. Am i understanding this correctly?
Thanks again in advance.

[Toby]

Yes, that's correct. The only links on the affiliate version of the tour go to other pages on the tour. Your regular tour remains as it is.

It's very easy to change the default page that affiliate traffic is redirected to by CCBill. You just send all that traffic to the start page of the leak free tour.


THEN once it's all in place you send an email notice to all your current affiliates announcing the new leak free tour.

[Suckerpunch]

Originally Posted by zoligirls

You were double dipping the whole time i was paying you why not tell all the folks about that ,not only were you charging me for your shit traffic but you were also hitting my ccbill affiliate program, you my friend are not worth doing business with.
Cheers

Wow... just got stopped in from the camping trip to see this. That's absolute bullshit and you know it. Any spots you paid for did not include my ccbill affiliate code. I have done business with you and many others for years and not once did I screw people around like that.

[Suckerpunch]

Oh this is classic... he doesn't know what this issues were and I never explained it to him? Here is the email I sent to him on April 8th...

Hey Zoli,

I just wanted to make you aware that I will be pulling all my links and
galleries to your site this evening. There are a number of reasons but
the main one is there are so many traffic leaks on your site it's simply
not acceptable to me.

After reviewing it this morning here's what I found...

- On the main page you have "Exclusive DVDs Now Available" which directs
to your video site without compensating the webmaster.

- Under the links section you have a number of additional paysites listed
(I believe 7). Again, no way that I am being compensated for any sales
you make with those sites.

- Under the dvd store you are also linking to yet another way for you to
profit from the traffic.

I was reviewing my stats and noticing how much the conversions have
decreased over the last year and a half and it made me really take a look
at the site for the first time.

Your gallery traffic has long expired and I haven't heard from you after
repeated yahoo messages.

If you change your site and eliminate the traffic leaks, I would consider
pushing them again. The bottom line for me is I am sending you quality,
converting traffic and you have a number of opportunities to profit and I,
as the person sending the traffic, do not get compensated or have a chance
to profit from it.

Your conversions have dropped to a dismal 1:1,700 for me this year. By
comparison sites like artofpantyhose.de (1:600), onlytease (1:800) and
realpantyhoseteens (1:800) convert much better.

Best of luck,
Chris

And then he sent an email to all his affiliates May 24th that said the following;

Good day all Zoligirls .com is now offering a 60% 40% split with its 5%
webmaster referral on all new and recurring sign ups, Zoligirls.com is
also now a no LEAK site. Please click on our webmaster link at
http://www.zoligirls.com/webmaster.html We are in the middle of completing
our affiliate site www.zoligirlscash.com If you require any new material
please e-mail support@zoligirls.com until the zoligirlscash site is on
line. Thanks to all our affiliates who made 2008 the best year ever so
far. With Regards Zoli http://www.zoligirls.com
http://www.zoligirlscash.com http://www.pantyhosecheer.com
http://www.pantyhosemedia.com

So please make sure you give all the information before spouting your crap Zoli. I chose not to do business with you and decided to spread the word because of your childish actions. As I stated I was no longer going to promote your program and gave you the reasons for it. You took the next childish step of deleting me from your forum.

I seem to recall you thanking me on Yahoo! Messenger for my suggestions because you had more sales and more affiliates since going to the no leak system that I outlined in detail in my email. But you decided to bump an old thread and stir up new shit.

Best of luck jackass...

[somona]

I think you'd better fix that on icq ....
I was in Ontario 2 weeks ago in a Camping...near Alfred....nice trip

Somona

[Suckerpunch]

Hey somona,

Yeah, I have the family camping in the Kawarthas (Ontario). Heading to the Havelock Jamboree this Thursday. Lots of country music, tons more beer

I might have to drop back in a couple days though to check out this thread though before I head out there.

Cheers!
Chris

[somona]

So Suckerpunch, I live not so far from you !
Enjoy your nice week !.....

Cheers xxx

Somona

[zoligirls]

This just goes to show you how greedy you are. You just proved it to all the people look at your e-mail that you sent after years of doing bizz.

Hey Zoli,

I just wanted to make you aware that I will be pulling all my links and
Galleries to your site this evening. There are a number of reasons but
the main one is there are so many traffic leaks on your site it's simply
not acceptable to me.

After reviewing it this morning here's what I found...

After reviewing it this morning?????
DUDE you were an affiliate for 4 years and nothing has changed but your greed,,, its not like you didn’t know how the site was when you started...
You’re just a trouble maker, Sony was right now I know why so many people always told me to stay away from you,

[zoligirls]

Originally Posted by Suckerpunch

Oh this is classic... he doesn't know what this issues were and I never explained it to him? Here is the email I sent to him on April 8th...



And then he sent an email to all his affiliates May 24th that said the following;



So please make sure you give all the information before spouting your crap Zoli. I chose not to do business with you and decided to spread the word because of your childish actions. As I stated I was no longer going to promote your program and gave you the reasons for it. You took the next childish step of deleting me from your forum.

I seem to recall you thanking me on Yahoo! Messenger for my suggestions because you had more sales and more affiliates since going to the no leak system that I outlined in detail in my email. But you decided to bump an old thread and stir up new shit.

Best of luck jackass...

So please make sure you give all the information before spouting your crap Zoli. I chose not to do business with you and decided to spread the word because of your childish actions. As I stated I was no longer going to promote your program and gave you the reasons for it. You took the next childish step of deleting me from your forum.

I seem to recall you thanking me on Yahoo! Messenger for my suggestions because you had more sales and more affiliates since going to the no leak system that I outlined in detail in my email. But you decided to bump an old thread and stir up new shit.

Best of luck jackass...
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and i,m childish LMAO